“People Are Very Comfortable Talking About Everything but God,” Smashing Pumpkins Singer Says

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Throughout his adult life Billy Corgan has been based in a section of American culture which is not generally linked with public expressions of Christianity. Since he is the band’s singer, guitarist and main creative force behind the Smashing Pumpkins, he has become one of the principal voices of alternative rock in the 1990s. The group from Chicago were formed in 1988 and achieved success with albums such as Gish, Siamese Dream and the extensive Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. According to Sony Music’s history of the Smashing Pumpkins the group has achieved more than 30 million album sales and states that Corgan’s songwriting is part of the sound which defined an era in alternative music.

The fact that Corgan made those remarks in a recent interview is therefore especially notable. On the September 23 programme of The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan, featuring Stryper’s frontman Michael Sweet, Corgan shifted the talk away from albums, touring and the workings of the music industry and towards a topic which he thinks many artists deliberately shun: God.

He described himself simply as a Christian and stated that he had deliberately decided to speak openly about his faith even if that caused damage to his career. “I made the decision that I was going to talk about God honestly,” he said, mentioning his belief in “Jesus as my Lord and Savior.” His reason for doing this was not mainly to preach to listeners but rather to refuse to conceal a significant part of himself from them. If he could not be honest about who he was, Corgan asked, then what exactly was he asking his fans to believe in?

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Rock music has for ever created a mythology based on authenticity, the singer being expected to reveal the heartbreak, addiction, anger, political issues, sex, rebellion and personal trauma which lie behind the music; Corgan’s point is that religion somehow stands as an exception to that expectation.

When speaking to Sweet, Corgan remarked that it was “very odd that people are very comfortable talking about everything but God.” He remembered having before referred to God as “the third rail of rock and roll,” the idea being that addressing the subject openly might be regarded as professionally dangerous. Corgan was not making a new point in this instance; in a 2013 CNN interview he had likewise described God as the “third rail” of rock music and maintained that artists were strangely reluctant to deal with a topic which remains central to the lives of billions of people.

The situation becomes more interesting since Corgan is not positioning himself as an evangelist demanding that his audience convert from the stage. In this new discussion he has made a distinction between speaking honestly about his own faith and telling other people what they must believe; he holds that people should finally go by their own convictions. His objection is not that all musicians should become Christians. It is that an artist should not be expected to hide his Christianity while nearly all other deeply personal beliefs are regarded as acceptable artistic material.

That distinction is important; when an artist sings about atheism, sexuality, politics, depression or addiction it is generally regarded as reflecting his or her own experiences. Yet Corgan is questioning why stating that Jesus is his Lord and Savior should cause the same act of personal expression to be seen as preaching.

The fact that people have religious beliefs adds extra significance to his question. Corgan said in the interview that a large number of Americans believe in God. Although his estimate was not very precise, the general conclusion is backed up by major survey research. The Pew Research Center’s 2023–24 Religious Landscape Study found that 83% of U.S. adults believe in God or a universal spirit. Indeed, even though America is becoming more religiously diverse, belief in something that goes beyond the purely material world is still widespread.

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The fact that Michael Sweet was there meant that the discussion went beyond being merely theoretical. Since the early days, he has been the frontman of Stryper, a band that is one of the rare examples of a heavy metal group in which its Christian identity has become completely linked with its music. The description of Stryper’s rise from the Sunset Strip to MTV is included in the episode description, as well as mention being made of the opposition the group faced from the rock world and from certain sections of the church.

When Corgan asked why artists who consider themselves to be Christian might become hesitant about saying so publicly, Sweet gave a one-word answer: “Fear.”

Sweet says that when he meets people in the music industry who privately tell him that they are Christians and respect Stryper for openly expressing their beliefs, they tend to reduce their voices when talking about their own faith. Sweet adds that some of them tell him that they wish they could take the same approach. He believes that many of them are afraid of the effect that openly linking themselves with Christianity might have on how their careers, their fans or their colleagues see them.

Corgan’s reaction has been almost the direct opposite. He stated that if being honest about God harmed his career, then he didn’t mind. Given that the musician’s career has encompassed alternative-rock stardom, solo projects, reunions, and is now also involved in his own long-form interview programme, the comment goes against the idea that a prominent artist must keep their faith clearly separated from their public image.

There is also a counter-argument. God has not in fact vanished from popular music. Gospel has played a role in shaping rock and roll itself, and artists as diverse as Elvis Presley, Bob Dylan and U2 have included religious beliefs, biblical language or spiritual searching in large portions of their work, while explicitly Christian groups such as Stryper have managed to build large audiences. Corgan’s idea that God is rock’s forbidden subject can therefore be taken too far if it is understood to mean that Christianity has no role in rock’s history.

What is more interesting about his argument is the question of disclosure not that of existence. Religious imagery may be in vogue and so may spiritual ambiguity. If an artist plainly states “I am a Christian” and refers to Jesus as Lord, it can have a different cultural significance, especially in parts of the entertainment industry where personal identity is incorporated into marketing.

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The conversation took on a more personal tone when Corgan clarified his meaning of faith. In reply to people who question him by asking how he can know that God is real, Corgan stated that his answer is that he does not know this in a scientific way. For him this state of uncertainty does not weaken faith; it in fact defines it.

He defined belief as accepting a notion that cannot be simply proved by physical evidence; he said that his faith provides a better explanation of a universe in which humans have developed lasting ideas concerning justice, goodness and moral responsibility. During the conversation, faith was not treated as mathematical certainty but rather was presented as Corgan’s way of understanding existence.

It is an important distinction since Corgan’s remarks do not actually constitute an argument that he can prove Christianity to somebody who doesn’t believe in it; in fact, he consistently dismisses that approach. The point in question is whether or not a musician should be required to act as if his faith didn’t exist just because religion is an uncomfortable part of the culture.

That is probably the reason why the most revealing sentence in the conversation was not a theological assertion at all, but rather the observation that people appear to be willing to talk about almost anything except when it comes to God.

Rock music had built a great deal of its own identity on breaking taboos. Corgan is in effect asking if, after all those years of rebellion, Christianity has now become one of the very few topics that makes rock stars feel nervous.

If that is the case, the singer who played a key role in shaping one of the biggest generations in alternative rock seems to be becoming more and more willing to go near that third rail.

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